Some more homework from Sheri:
".... The school [MMIB] is not large enough for 1000 students. We don't need a school that large. We will be around 780 students at capacity.
6th-10th- 130 students equals 650 students
11th-12th- 130 total
Total students is 780. As they stated 50% of the kids don't go on to the Diploma Program."
That was Sheri's reaction to these e-mails between Dr. Taylor and Dr. Miller, adminstrative leaders within the Iredell-Statesville school system.
>>> Kenny Miller 3/26/2010 5:00 PM >>>
To all,
The only difference I see for the capacity figures were generated by the increase in class size by the state. In addition the use changed the grade levels resulting in much different class size numbers (The elementary capacity sheet was calculated in 2008 when the class size requirements were less than the current year and Mt. Mourne was an elementary school).
The reason we reworked the capacities was to reflect the changes in class size and different grade levels from the original 2008 worksheet. We could not do this until we had firm figures from the state. As everyone knows any increase in class size will increase capacity. The 550 reflected a best estimate based on state recommended class sizes prior to our knowing the states exact class size changes. The number of students that can be served depends on a lot of factors (sports on site or off?, class offerings and sizes?, students driving?, number of staff? Middle / High School operation? etc.)
Ultimately the answer to everyone's question: "No, Mt. Mourne cannot handle 1000 students in its current configuration". The optimum physical capacity is between 550 and 608 as it is configured at present. Even if you put more mobiles the support services (cafeteria, P.E., parking, staffing etc.) cannot meet the needs without a major upgrade.
Hoping this helps to clarify the information.
The changes were as follows: 2008 in Black and 2010 in Blue.
State Recommended Maximum
K - 3rd. 2008 - 18 21 2010- 20 23
4th. - 6th 2008 - 22 26 2010- 25 29
7th. - 8th 2008 - 21 26 2010- 24 29
9th - 12th 2008 - 26.64 29 2010- 27.5 29
Kenny Miller, Ed.D.
Executive Director for Facilities / Planning
Iredell / Statesville Schools
Office: 704-873-3755
>>> Melanie Taylor 3/25/2010 4:31 PM >>>
FYI - The numbers for MMIB and NVIB are very different on the capacity worksheet shared last month with what we had shared regarding IB planning in November and Feb. A parent brought this to my attention and I told her I would follow up to determine where the differences were. Can you guys help?
Melanie N. Taylor Ed. D.
Associate Superintendent of Curriculum and Instruction
Iredell-Statesville Schools
410 Garfield Street
Statesville, NC 28677
Phone 704-832-2521
Fax 704-871-9973
email: mtaylor@iss.k12.nc.us
Thursday, April 1, 2010
Dr. Melanie Taylor visits with a member of our internal task force
Sheri has worked hard to gather information to help us get a better picture, here's a good bit of the information that she has collected on a variety of relevant topics....
1) No recommendation has been made as to what school will house the IB High School Diploma. The rumor that you hear about South Iredell is just that, a rumor. What was stated was if a decision had to be done immediately then a large number of the board would like to house the High School Diploma program at one location and that would be SIHS.
2) Mount Mourne's capacity for students is 550 pupils. This is a lower number than when it was an elementary school because of the size of the kids and supplies needed. We are currently at 408 and will be at 538 if Jason brings in 130 more students.
3) The County never stated that the High School Diploma Program would be housed at MMIB. They stated that the Middle Years Diploma would be at MMIB.
4) Current the county is talking about combining the 2 programs into one location. Statesville currently has a couple of magnet schools and they don't want to add to that. Lake Norman is overcrowded. They are adding a new program (Career Technical Center) which would be located near SIHS which would help with transportation costs.
5) It was stated that if the program grows then they could consider 2 locations. This does not mean that they won't consider 2 locations now just that it may not be feasible. Money and Capacity of schools may limit this. However, a couple of board members would prefer 2 locations.
6) School Size Capacity
MMIB- 550 Currently- 408
LNHS- 2000- Currently- about 1900
SIHS- 1780- Currently- just under 1000
Statesville HS- 1600- around 1000?
7) Interesting fact... If IB did not open then the county would have been forced to redistrict because of over-crowding. By Coddle Creek Elementary housing 6th grade and IB opening, Brawely is better off. With the IB High School kids here it reduces population and classroom's need at high school. This is expected to hold off redistricting for 3-5 years. This was the decision of an outside redistricting company that was looking at redistricting LNHS with Route 150 being the cut off for attendence.
8) For MMIB to house the whole program for our students the costs came back at 1/2 million dollars because of the renting and purchasing of trailers.
9) Primary concern for the county is that such a small number of students at a small school may not have the proper facilities for the classes or be able to offer enough classes for the students.
1) No recommendation has been made as to what school will house the IB High School Diploma. The rumor that you hear about South Iredell is just that, a rumor. What was stated was if a decision had to be done immediately then a large number of the board would like to house the High School Diploma program at one location and that would be SIHS.
2) Mount Mourne's capacity for students is 550 pupils. This is a lower number than when it was an elementary school because of the size of the kids and supplies needed. We are currently at 408 and will be at 538 if Jason brings in 130 more students.
3) The County never stated that the High School Diploma Program would be housed at MMIB. They stated that the Middle Years Diploma would be at MMIB.
4) Current the county is talking about combining the 2 programs into one location. Statesville currently has a couple of magnet schools and they don't want to add to that. Lake Norman is overcrowded. They are adding a new program (Career Technical Center) which would be located near SIHS which would help with transportation costs.
5) It was stated that if the program grows then they could consider 2 locations. This does not mean that they won't consider 2 locations now just that it may not be feasible. Money and Capacity of schools may limit this. However, a couple of board members would prefer 2 locations.
6) School Size Capacity
MMIB- 550 Currently- 408
LNHS- 2000- Currently- about 1900
SIHS- 1780- Currently- just under 1000
Statesville HS- 1600- around 1000?
7) Interesting fact... If IB did not open then the county would have been forced to redistrict because of over-crowding. By Coddle Creek Elementary housing 6th grade and IB opening, Brawely is better off. With the IB High School kids here it reduces population and classroom's need at high school. This is expected to hold off redistricting for 3-5 years. This was the decision of an outside redistricting company that was looking at redistricting LNHS with Route 150 being the cut off for attendence.
8) For MMIB to house the whole program for our students the costs came back at 1/2 million dollars because of the renting and purchasing of trailers.
9) Primary concern for the county is that such a small number of students at a small school may not have the proper facilities for the classes or be able to offer enough classes for the students.
Budget-related information for Iredell-Statesville schools and for IB programme
Here's a link to a page that presents Iredell-Statesville schools preliminary budget, 2010:
http://embedit.in/pbxusXCqQl
Here's a link to a page that gives context to Dr. Melanie Taylor's comments about costs of the IB programme in her discussions with school board as noted in the Statesville Register article:
http://embedit.in/se8JaoI9QS
Special thanks to Sheri and Heather for their contributions on this piece!
http://embedit.in/pbxusXCqQl
Here's a link to a page that gives context to Dr. Melanie Taylor's comments about costs of the IB programme in her discussions with school board as noted in the Statesville Register article:
http://embedit.in/se8JaoI9QS
Special thanks to Sheri and Heather for their contributions on this piece!
Another great opportunity to connect with the school board- this meeting is all about IB!
A message from MOUNT MOURNE IB SCHOOL
Parents,
The school board will be holding a meeting to discuss the future location of the Diploma Programme (11th and 12th grade) on April 20 at Statesville High School's MacGray Auditorium from 6 - 8 PM.
During this meeting Dr. Harwell-Braun, the director of IB education, will be sharing information on the DP program and Mr. Johnson, the Superintendent, will be gathering feedback from parents.
Please plan to attend.
Parents,
The school board will be holding a meeting to discuss the future location of the Diploma Programme (11th and 12th grade) on April 20 at Statesville High School's MacGray Auditorium from 6 - 8 PM.
During this meeting Dr. Harwell-Braun, the director of IB education, will be sharing information on the DP program and Mr. Johnson, the Superintendent, will be gathering feedback from parents.
Please plan to attend.
I know the Task Force is presenting our comments as a group, but I want to also speak as an individual parent. Can I do that? How?
Some of you have expressed interest in also participating in the school board meeting on 12 April. You are free to do so. (What a country!).
You'll need to sign up with the clerk for the board,
"Public comment is welcome at the regular board of education meetings, however, you are reminded to limit your comments to three minutes and sign up prior to the meeting by contacting the clerk to the board at 704-924-2028 or by clicking here."
We are already on the agenda for 5 minutes for one spokesperson to speak on behalf of the entire MMIB 9th Grade parents group as well.
You'll need to sign up with the clerk for the board,
"Public comment is welcome at the regular board of education meetings, however, you are reminded to limit your comments to three minutes and sign up prior to the meeting by contacting the clerk to the board at 704-924-2028 or by clicking here."
We are already on the agenda for 5 minutes for one spokesperson to speak on behalf of the entire MMIB 9th Grade parents group as well.
What's the view from Northview?
Internal task force team members have begun a dialogue with Northview PTSO, to provide us some more context with our "sister" IB program in the Iredell-Statesville school system.
Here is initial report:
"... spoke with the VP of the PTSO at Northview this week. Her name is Kisha Clark and she was very open and willing to work together. ... the parents there are not very organized at this point. I told her about our survey and she is taking the lead on getting a similar survey up and running for their student body. They have some very different issues than we do, ..... their 9th graders do not have options for extracurricular activities such as band at their home schools...a missing link to tying them to any one school, but also a lost opportunity for the kids. She said that some students came to IB to bypass East Middle School and fully intend to go to North Iredell HS for 9th grade. At this point, they don’t have any solid numbers or consensus...making the survey appealing to them as well. "
Thanks for you work, Joanie!
Here is initial report:
"... spoke with the VP of the PTSO at Northview this week. Her name is Kisha Clark and she was very open and willing to work together. ... the parents there are not very organized at this point. I told her about our survey and she is taking the lead on getting a similar survey up and running for their student body. They have some very different issues than we do, ..... their 9th graders do not have options for extracurricular activities such as band at their home schools...a missing link to tying them to any one school, but also a lost opportunity for the kids. She said that some students came to IB to bypass East Middle School and fully intend to go to North Iredell HS for 9th grade. At this point, they don’t have any solid numbers or consensus...making the survey appealing to them as well. "
Thanks for you work, Joanie!
Notes from the 9th Grade parents mtg at MMIB on March 23, 2010
Thank you to each parent and student who attended the meeting on 03-23-10 and to those who have faithfully attended our meetings throughout this year. Your ideas and service really do make a difference for our students and for the MMIB community.
Summary of the Meeting of Ninth Grade Students and Parents
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:00-9:00 am MMIB School Cafeteria
1. Carol Cross reiterated the focus of this meeting: to develop a plan for gathering information to include in a 5 min. presentation about housing and direction of the IB Diploma Program in Iredell County by a spokesperson for our group at the ISS Board of Education Meeting on April 12, 2010, 6pm, at the Iredell County Government Center, second floor. This presentaion will be in the "Public Comments" section of the agenda. (Lisa VanBuhler, Parent Liaison, represented the PTSO Board at the meeting on March 23.)
2. Open discussion followed about parent and student preferences for housing the Diploma Program and about recommendations for content of the presentation at the ISS Board Meeting on April 12.
3. It was recommended that a Ninth Grade Internal Task Force gather and synthesize factual information for ninth grade parents and students to consider prior to the presentation on April 12. The following people agreed to serve on the Internal Task Force: Karen Abercrombie, Deb Bradley, Moira Campbell, Heather Griffin, Bob Gourley, Jr., Joanie Guglielmi, Larry Harrelson, Hyeyoung Jung, Jeff Kent, Sarah Miller, Jayanthi Rajan, John Spates, Sheri Vitkus, and Dana Tucker.
3. A MMIB PTSO survey of student/parent preferences for the location of the IB Diploma Program prior to the ISS Board Meeting was recommended.
Summary of the Meeting of Ninth Grade Students and Parents
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:00-9:00 am MMIB School Cafeteria
1. Carol Cross reiterated the focus of this meeting: to develop a plan for gathering information to include in a 5 min. presentation about housing and direction of the IB Diploma Program in Iredell County by a spokesperson for our group at the ISS Board of Education Meeting on April 12, 2010, 6pm, at the Iredell County Government Center, second floor. This presentaion will be in the "Public Comments" section of the agenda. (Lisa VanBuhler, Parent Liaison, represented the PTSO Board at the meeting on March 23.)
2. Open discussion followed about parent and student preferences for housing the Diploma Program and about recommendations for content of the presentation at the ISS Board Meeting on April 12.
3. It was recommended that a Ninth Grade Internal Task Force gather and synthesize factual information for ninth grade parents and students to consider prior to the presentation on April 12. The following people agreed to serve on the Internal Task Force: Karen Abercrombie, Deb Bradley, Moira Campbell, Heather Griffin, Bob Gourley, Jr., Joanie Guglielmi, Larry Harrelson, Hyeyoung Jung, Jeff Kent, Sarah Miller, Jayanthi Rajan, John Spates, Sheri Vitkus, and Dana Tucker.
3. A MMIB PTSO survey of student/parent preferences for the location of the IB Diploma Program prior to the ISS Board Meeting was recommended.
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